tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6824896765631412903.post8800858455380908230..comments2023-09-05T12:51:25.656-05:00Comments on edittorrent: Blame YourselvesEdittorrenthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14295505709568570553noreply@blogger.comBlogger28125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6824896765631412903.post-85930870164223648522010-01-25T14:22:17.956-06:002010-01-25T14:22:17.956-06:00@rachelcapps no such luck :( I'm still looking...@rachelcapps no such luck :( I'm still looking. I even went through my spam mail to be sure lol<br /><br />@jami I used to be able to learn most of this stuff instantly and retain a good portion. So, for me, this new "learning curve" is especially frustrating. But, I can go back and look at old posts when I realize I'm doing something wrong. The trick is to catch it :DLeonahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11786326364037397675noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6824896765631412903.post-23350121053430032602010-01-20T11:08:56.993-06:002010-01-20T11:08:56.993-06:00Leona,
Don't feel bad. I may be a perfection...Leona,<br /><br />Don't feel bad. I may be a perfectionist, but I am nowhere near perfect! LOL! I did some copy-editing work in high school and it trained me to be detail-oriented. However, as Alicia can attest with the PPP stuff, I didn't actually know what I was doing. :) I'm just stubborn and determined enough to stick around here to learn it all. I only wish that I could plug myself into the Matrix and learn it all instantly, so I didn't have to worry about what holes my education might have. :)<br /><br />Jami G.Jami Goldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00957122956518765455noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6824896765631412903.post-91529628319155121692010-01-20T08:11:16.659-06:002010-01-20T08:11:16.659-06:00Uh, Jami, you must have missed a few comments alon...Uh, Jami, you must have missed a few comments along the way, because T&A has come up before. It's been a while, though, and was probably before Murphy's time, so I'm sure her use is original. I imagine Ian would remember if he came by.Dave Shawhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00773380114295267509noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6824896765631412903.post-28707414508122207682010-01-19T22:43:03.877-06:002010-01-19T22:43:03.877-06:00I'm crawling out from under the mushroom now *...I'm crawling out from under the mushroom now *blinking*, but with a huge grin. I see the light! Thanks so much for your explanation, Theresa. Technical = improvement.<br /><br />I'm a fan of action tags too. I find a book has pace with action tags. And I hope my MS will too ;) <br /><br />Oh, Dave, you are so right. The best way to enjoy this blog is to read the comments - and participate. LOL!<br /><br />Leona, let me know if you find that hot critiquer, I might need one too ;)Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14565683058021299230noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6824896765631412903.post-74872884254431287562010-01-19T22:01:57.233-06:002010-01-19T22:01:57.233-06:00And I am jonesing for time to write a new post.
T...And I am jonesing for time to write a new post.<br /><br />TheresaEdittorrenthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14295505709568570553noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6824896765631412903.post-68391310328093472612010-01-19T17:51:38.758-06:002010-01-19T17:51:38.758-06:00Theresa,
So I shouldn't mention that I've...Theresa,<br /><br />So I shouldn't mention that I've restrained myself from a "T&A" comment several times since I first started reading this blog? :) Although you probably could guess that because I was the one that noticed it. If you notice something, isn't it usually because you've done it or at least thought about it? :)<br /><br />Jami G.Jami Goldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00957122956518765455noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6824896765631412903.post-71348967341209634772010-01-19T16:16:21.211-06:002010-01-19T16:16:21.211-06:00Unlike Jami, I have not made it through each and e...Unlike Jami, I have not made it through each and everyone of the posts. I made it through most of them, but my brain melted into a puddle upon overload.<br /><br />I'm surprised the dialogue post mentioned didn't get more responses. It's useful, as always.<br /><br />I finally got my husband started on editing the many works waiting for help. Will have to direct him to this site when we find an internet provider that services Rural America that isn't dial up.<br /><br />Murphy, see me shaking my head and laughing until I cough. You are incorrigible. <br /><br />I don't know how you all keep it straight, though. Jami must be a computer on legs! No offense Jami, simply envy. It seems when I get one thing down a new thing comes along and I start messing up the old thing again!! LOL <br /><br />S'okay though, cuz I'm on the lookout for a hot critiquer who will help edit regularly (not every 6-8 months when in the mood :P) Hopefully, they can keep it all straight.Leonahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11786326364037397675noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6824896765631412903.post-57305911101293553452010-01-19T15:07:26.278-06:002010-01-19T15:07:26.278-06:00Jonsing for a new post, but now I get to go back a...Jonsing for a new post, but now I get to go back and read all of the favorites on the list! Awesome.Eva Galehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08834856467514439544noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6824896765631412903.post-27537673410630927352010-01-19T11:48:09.860-06:002010-01-19T11:48:09.860-06:00Theresa M, try using action beats instead of tags....Theresa M, try using action beats instead of tags. You'll end up with more vivid prose in the end, and you'll get around the issue of whether to use said or a said-clone. I wrote a post on it here:<br />http://edittorrent.blogspot.com/2008/02/dialogue-tags.html<br /><br />T&A. Leave it to Murphy to come up with that one. lol<br /><br />TheresaEdittorrenthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14295505709568570553noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6824896765631412903.post-17523176214843146882010-01-19T10:54:52.302-06:002010-01-19T10:54:52.302-06:00Gee, Murphy, did you not get that the blog is aliv...Gee, Murphy, did you not get that the blog is alive with the sound of commenters humming? That was the evil I referred to. Jami got it, but as you say, she went back and read every post, so we know what kind of person she is. ;-)Dave Shawhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00773380114295267509noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6824896765631412903.post-43545247756895883512010-01-19T09:06:33.030-06:002010-01-19T09:06:33.030-06:00Murphy,
I can't believe you went there...
An...Murphy,<br /><br />I can't believe you went there...<br /><br />And no, I'm not talking about the reading all the posts thing. You called Theresa and Alicia - "T & A". That's some balls there... LOL!<br /><br />Jami G.Jami Goldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00957122956518765455noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6824896765631412903.post-41116753555093129792010-01-19T07:32:53.571-06:002010-01-19T07:32:53.571-06:00I've read several blogs that discuss dialogue ...I've read several blogs that discuss dialogue tags, and many say to use "said" as much as possible because anything else becomes a distraction. But I've read a few books that use "said" almost exclusively, and I've found that a distraction. While I don't want to pepper my manuscripts with every single word related to "said" that I can find in the thesaurus, I think a few more options enhance the writing.<br /><br />What are your thoughts on this, Theresa?Theresa Milsteinhttp://theresamilstein.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6824896765631412903.post-9789644097416446082010-01-18T19:36:16.128-06:002010-01-18T19:36:16.128-06:00Murphy & Leona,
Nope, I'm still curled up...Murphy & Leona,<br /><br />Nope, I'm still curled up in a ball, so I won't touch Theresa's comment about commas and dialogue. :)<br /><br />Dave,<br /><br />Yep, I did that. That's how I found so many of my favorite things - I mean posts - to nominate for the list. Hee!<br /><br />Jami G.Jami Goldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00957122956518765455noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6824896765631412903.post-53939240271715764342010-01-18T16:38:55.781-06:002010-01-18T16:38:55.781-06:00Dave, you're not evil. Geez, don't you re...Dave, you're not evil. Geez, don't you remember that <i>infamous</i> comment in a thread last year- when JG announced that she had read EACH AND EVERY post of T and A's? EVERY COTTON-PICKING ONE of them?! That's why I didn't rib her about misspelling T's name at the time...there's only so much a Point Dexter like her can up put with. ;D Um, sorry, I couldn’t resist - but hey, instead of Ishmael just call me Churchill.<br /><br />Murphy - who is patiently waiting for some new sidebar bling. I do like the dazzle. :DRiley Murphyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15817930302085699222noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6824896765631412903.post-70228694786917703112010-01-18T15:26:15.756-06:002010-01-18T15:26:15.756-06:00Of course the favorites are great for the casual b...Of course the favorites are great for the casual browsers, but you all know that the only way to TRULY experience the blog is to start at the very beginning, it's the very best place to start...<br /><br />Yes, I'm evil. >;-)Dave Shawhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00773380114295267509noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6824896765631412903.post-60860317329918952962010-01-18T13:56:52.876-06:002010-01-18T13:56:52.876-06:00Oh Jami! Murphy has you pegged! LOL
This is great...Oh Jami! Murphy has you pegged! LOL<br /><br />This is great guys. I'm stumbling over dialogue now becuase there is so much I'd forgotten about the technical side of things with the punctuation, etc. **sigh**<br /><br />It's okay. I hear and obey oh wise masters. :DLeonahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11786326364037397675noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6824896765631412903.post-55466462786115476892010-01-18T10:54:39.607-06:002010-01-18T10:54:39.607-06:00Oh man, Theresa, you had to say technical, didn...Oh man, Theresa, you had to say technical, didn't you? I can just see JG tripping over herself to rush to her keyboard. ;) You probably just made her day!<br /><br />Murphy :DRiley Murphyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15817930302085699222noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6824896765631412903.post-77523908243702016172010-01-18T10:26:09.489-06:002010-01-18T10:26:09.489-06:00Theresa & Alicia,
These are great choices! I...Theresa & Alicia,<br /><br />These are great choices! I especially like how you selected a few series as well, as so many of your insights can't be captured with a single post.<br /><br />However, now everyone will see in the comments for those old posts that for <i>months</i> I spelled Theresa's name wrong. And you all know what a perfectionist I am, so you can just guess how much that bothers me. LOL! Oh, to have the power to edit my comments... :) Sorry, Theresa, a childhood friend spelled it the other way and your spelling never even registered. I promise I'll do a better job of double-checking that sort of thing with my submissions.<br /><br />Jami G.<br />(curled up in a ball...)Jami Goldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00957122956518765455noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6824896765631412903.post-84571222962144316992010-01-18T10:11:42.520-06:002010-01-18T10:11:42.520-06:00Rachel, John is the subject of the sentence, and s...Rachel, John is the subject of the sentence, and said is the verb. Normally, we like the subject to come before the verb. <br /><br />That's the simple explanation. Actually, technically, the dialogue itself is the direct object of the verb said. A normal SVO construction would have it as:<br />John said, "Dialogue."<br /><br />Inverting it reverses the order of all parts:<br />"Dialogue," said John.<br /><br />But this is generally considered outdated, and instead of a perfect inversion, we just place the object first:<br />"Dialogue," John said.<br /><br />If you really want to get technical, we can talk about why the comma at the end of the dialogue makes that sentence structure acceptable.<br /><br />TheresaEdittorrenthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14295505709568570553noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6824896765631412903.post-14924704952238787232010-01-17T17:31:45.278-06:002010-01-17T17:31:45.278-06:00I have a question about no 8 - Dialogue Tags, a wo...I have a question about no 8 - Dialogue Tags, a would-have-been comment if I'd found you back then :) <br /><br />Is there a rule about where to place "said" in the dialogue tag? I notice you have the eg: <br /><br />"Hello," John said.<br /><br />Is there a rule against, or a good reason why, it can't be:<br /><br />"Hello," said John.<br /><br />And if there is no rule, then what makes this dialogue tag different to an inverted quote tag? Alicia mentioned the inverted quote tag here http://edittorrent.blogspot.com/2009/06/raachel-line-edits.html<br /><br />Please, help me see the light!Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14565683058021299230noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6824896765631412903.post-58241016678376634732010-01-17T12:38:51.623-06:002010-01-17T12:38:51.623-06:00These really are great.. all of them. Very helpful...These really are great.. all of them. Very helpful to me. Glad you did this.<br /><br />Cheers.Shelbyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02757079675613448834noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6824896765631412903.post-65064698112242554832010-01-17T12:11:46.548-06:002010-01-17T12:11:46.548-06:00Sky, thank you! That was our hope when we started ...Sky, thank you! That was our hope when we started this process. We couldn't have done it without the help of our readers and all their great nominations.<br /><br />TheresaEdittorrenthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14295505709568570553noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6824896765631412903.post-63015665499458243322010-01-17T11:59:53.436-06:002010-01-17T11:59:53.436-06:00As someone who just found this blog I love that yo...As someone who just found this blog I love that you made the lists! I can go back and hit all the great ones without getting bogged down and reading them all...I might still do that, but I dont't have to now.Sky Robinsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09288058958357036968noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6824896765631412903.post-11030741307315593432010-01-17T09:17:25.610-06:002010-01-17T09:17:25.610-06:00Although they are all great, 6 and 9 were surprise...Although they are all great, 6 and 9 were surprises to me. I don't know why - maybe because I immediately rememebered each as I went down the list - but those two didn't ring a bell. *sigh* Some things stick while other things? Slide. :D<br /><br />Thanks for doing this guys!<br />MurphyRiley Murphyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15817930302085699222noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6824896765631412903.post-84794515715582404202010-01-16T18:33:47.153-06:002010-01-16T18:33:47.153-06:00Whoo hoo! Awesome list, and like Sylvia and Leona...Whoo hoo! Awesome list, and like Sylvia and Leona, a couple I haven't read. <br /><br />Now, if the kids behave, I'll have a nice Sunday read.<br /><br />Love the series concept too :)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com